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Mijn 2.1 TD (ORGA 5740) is uitgevoerd met EGR, ik heb de volgende componenten hiervan gevonden:
1. EGR-pomp achter voorbumper onder rechter koplamp
2. drukgestuurde EGR-klep op uitlaatspruitstuk, welke wordt gestuurd door de EGR-pomp
3. leiding tussen EGR-klep en inlaatspruitstuk
4. stationair-contact op brandstofpomp
De bijbehorende besturing heb ik nog niet gevonden, ik weet dat er 2.1 TD’s met EGR zijn met een ECU in de bak rechtsvoor.
Bij mij zit het daar dus niet
Kan iemand mij vertellen hoe dit systeem werkt?
Wanneer opent de EGR-klep, bij stationair toerental of is die dan juist dicht?
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Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
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Is er echt niemand die dit weet?
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Waarschijnlijk wil niemand het weten, de meesten willen alleen weten hoe je het kan uitschakelen, omdat het meer vermogen oplevert en de inlaat schoon houd.
Ik weet het niet precies, maar bij een bepaald toerental en belasting van de motor, word een deel van de uitlaatgassen gerecirculeerd naar de inlaat. Hierdoor is er minder zuurstof om te verbranden en word de verbrandingstemperatuur omlaag gebracht, waardoor de uitstoot van stikstof-oxiden word beperkt.
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Als de hoeveelheid roet toeneemt volgens jou, waarom hebben alle moderne motoren met roetfilter dan een EGR systeem?
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
gediplomeerd Citroën Specialist!
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
disclaimer: al mijn adviezen komen voort uit opleidingen en professionele werkervaring. Let op, gebruik van mijn tips, trucs en adviezen geschiedt op eigen risico en autotechnische kennis is een vereiste
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Je moet het omdraaien, ze hebben een roetfilter omdat ze een EGR-systeem hebben. EGR drukt de NOx, maar verhoogt roet-uitstoot. Door er vervolgens een roetfilter achter te hangen ben je van dat nadeel af..
Volg je hart, gebruik je hoofd.
Er hoort een Lucas ecu (niet te verwarren met de Lucas EPIC ecu: de epic is van groot alu net zoals een type2 veerkoputer, de EGT computer is formaat van 2 pakjes peuken en zwart plastic, staat ok “Lucas"en de regel eronder “EGR”)
(ff op klikken, rechts boven)
T contact bovenop je pomp is de gasklep positie meter. De EGR klep staat altijd open bij deellast, dicht bij staitionair en volgas.
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Matthijs309 schreef:Er hoort een Lucas ecu (niet te verwarren met de Lucas EPIC ecu: de epic is van groot alu net zoals een type2 veerkoputer, de EGT computer is formaat van 2 pakjes peuken en zwart plastic, staat ok “Lucas"en de regel eronder “EGR”)
(ff op klikken, rechts boven)T contact bovenop je pomp is de gasklep positie meter. De EGR klep staat altijd open bij deellast, dicht bij staitionair en volgas.
Mijn 2.1 TD met EGR heeft op de brandstofpomp alleen een schakelaartje wat bij stationair toerental schakelt en geen gaskleppositiemeter.
De EGR-pomp wordt naar mijn idee door dit schakelaartje in- en uitgeschakeld.
Ook de door jouw getoonde kleine lucas-ECU zit bij mij niet in de ECU-kast.
Zal vanavond eens de moeite nemen e.e.a. op de foto te zetten.
Mijn donor-motor, jou wel bekend, is wel uitgevoerd als door jou omschreven.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Wat is de doel van je vraag eigenlijk?
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Ik overweeg de EGR buiten werking te stellen.
Om de gevolgen hiervan te kunnen beoordelen, wil ik eerst weten hoe het systeem werkt.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Gewoon alles weglaten, dan gaat de klep ook niet open.
Nog beter: uitlaatspruitstuk pakken die geen egr klep heeft.
Ik heb zelfde de inlaatpijp van uitlaat neer inlaat voorzien van een rond stukje staal (afgesloten dus) en de vacuumslang van de klep losgehaald.
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