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- C3 Pluriel 1.6 16v sensodrive
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Alle vier de stekerverbindingen ondertussen schoongemaakt: de contacten gereinigd, beide stekerhelften met remmenreinger ingespoten, daarna met perslucht en vol met vaseline geduwd.
Steker in elkaar, de overtollige vaseline komt er dan aan de zijkanten uit.
ECU gereset, alles foutcodes weg en maar hopen dat het zo blijft!
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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In ieder geval tot na de APK.
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Wat denk je?
Rij vanmorgen 15 minuten in de regen, rem en PIEP: ABS-storing!!!
Ik word hier zo droevig van.
Vanavond maar weer uitlezen.
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Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
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Er zit voorin ook een relais, naar het zekeringenkastje met de beruchte airco zekering. De Lexia zegt dan zo iets als “veiligheidsrelais ABS”.
Ding uit zijn voet trekken en dezelfde behandeling geven.
Verder moet je ook een beetje medelijden hebben met zo’n oude auto!
Achterstallig onderhoud brengt elke Citroen op de sloop
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Dat heeft de APK ook niet!
Volg je hart, gebruik je hoofd.
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JanSr schreef:Er zit voorin ook een relais, naar het zekeringenkastje met de beruchte airco zekering.
Volgens de schema’s die ik van Brian heb gekregen zit bij een type 1 dit relais er niet.
Vanmiddag op de terugweg was alles weer uit!
Ga zo nog even de ECU uitlezen
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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‘t was toch weer code 24, sensor LA.
Wel kunnen resetten.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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Sensor LA, dat is toch de sensor waarvan de bedrading dicht langs de uitlaat loopt? Ik heb wel eens begrepen dat dat vaak problemen oplevert. Heb je dat al nagelopen?
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Ik heb het tracé van de bekabeling naar de sensor LA al eens bekeken.
Maar het steekt gewoon aan de bovenzijde van het achtersubframe over van rechts naar links en komt niet echt in de buurt van de uitlaat, althans bij mijn 2.1 TD.
Mogelijk is dit bij een benzine-uitvoering wel het geval.
Wel ontbreekt er aan het vrouwelijke deel van de stekerverbinding LA één van de twee stalen klemveren, misschien is hierdoor de kans op vocht in de steker groter.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
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Ik heb me er nooit in verdiept, tot nu toe heb ik probleemloze ABS-en gehad (afkloppen). Het was alleen omdat ik het eens ergens had gelezen.
Die stekkerverbinding, tja, zou kunnen. Op een gegeven moment weet je niet meer waar je het moet zoeken en ga je alles verdenken.
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Er zit ook nog een stekker op de ABS unit zelf. Type I ken ik onvoldoende, maar je zal er wel slecht bij kunnen. Verder is daar uiteraard het Type I aardingsspook.
Succes er mee, als je alle stekkers vol met vaseline hebt zitten is het doorgaans over.
Overigens zou je links achter ook nog een andere sensor kunnen monteren.
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JanSr schreef:Er zit ook nog een stekker op de ABS unit zelf. Type I ken ik onvoldoende, maar je zal er wel slecht bij kunnen. Verder is daar uiteraard het Type I aardingsspook.
Succes er mee, als je alle stekkers vol met vaseline hebt zitten is het doorgaans over.Overigens zou je links achter ook nog een andere sensor kunnen monteren.
Op het ABS-blok van een type 1 zitten zelfs 2 stekers, waar je overigens redelijk goed bij kan.
Alleen wijzen de storingscodes niet in die richting, maar altijd in de richting van de wielsensoren.
Als het aarding zou zijn, verwacht ik ook andere codes.
De aardingspunten op het rechterbinnenscherm zijn al aangepakt.
Het frappante is dat als ik op de 35-polige steker van de ABS-ECU de circuits van de wielsensoren doormeet, ik altijd normale weerstandwaarden meet.
Ik zou de sensor LA kunnen vervangen, heb die overigens nog liggen, maar de gemonteerde sensor is niet onderbroken of kortgesloten.
Waarom dan vervangen?
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Een as kan je zien draaien, maar elektronen doen hun werk onzichtbaar.
Daar waar grote stromen lopen ontstaat warmte bij overgangsweerstanden, maar in een meetcircuit als een ABS systeem lopen zeer kleine stroompjes. Wat daar gebeurt is daarom fragiel en ongewis.
Zodoende.
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Heb eind vorige week m’n achterwielen gedemonteerd en de bovenkant van de achterdraagarmen, welke een vorm heeft van een bakje door de opstaande kanten, ontdaan van al het zand en vocht wat daar zich ophoopt.
Door dit bakje lopen ook de remleiding en de kabel naar de sensor parallel van elkaar.
Zowel leiding als kabel liggen dan fraai in de natte prut.
En, wat denk je?
Na enige droogtijd geen ABS-storing meer, ook vanavond niet na een half uur rijden in de regen.
Begint erop te lijken dat dit de oorzaak zou kunnen zijn.
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Dat zou mooi zijn, als alleen dat de oorzaak is!
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