met zuurvrije vasaline?zal ik het spulletje maar eens uitbouwen om dus ook de sleepcontacten in te vetten.
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Goede avond.
Vanavond eens geprobeerd om het blok te laten draaien.
En om natuurlijk oliedruk te krijgen.
Dus alles netjes aangesloten.
Lampje met een draadje aan de accu en een stekkertje op de druk sensor.
Poelie van de dynamo ontspannen en de HD pomp ontkoppeld.
Daarna de draad op de plus en alles ging mooi rond,zoals het ook bedoeld is.
Maar om olie druk te krijgen kan ik natuurlijk ellenlang starten en laten draaien op de start motor.
Maar kan ik nu niet ergen olie ingieten zodat de pomp sneller vol komt?
Op het blok zit onder de waterpijp ter hoogte van de nokkenas een groet bout in het blok,kan ik daar bijvoorbeeld olie in laten lopen?
En kan ik als het blok weer loopt ,de dynamo voor nood aansluiten op een of andere manier zodat ik niet de hele tijd op een accu moet draaien,
zo gauw ik de hydrolyk wil testen.
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Waarom zou je de dynamo niet gewoon aansluiten? Niet dat hij veel doet onder de 1500 toeren, die je uiteraard niet haalt met starten op de startmotor.
Dus: even een startkastje (‘booster’) erbij als backup.
En oliedruk: moet ‘ie gewoon gaan krijgen met draaien van de startmotor. Je moet in elk geval doorstarten tot -en checken of- er olie uit de tuimelaarassen komt om de kop te smeren. Als dat zo is, weet je dat de oliepomp pompt.
Om de arbeid voor de startmotor te verlichten, zou je zelfs zonder bougies erin kunnen draaien, scheelt aanzienlijk, want dan hoeven de zuigers niet door de compressie heen.
P.S. je schreef: “onder de waterpijp ter hoogte van de nokkenas een groet bout in het blok”
Geen idee welke bout je bedoelt, maar ik zou niet weten waarom het helpt om daar van opzij olie in te gieten. De pomp zuigt immers van onder uit het carter?
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bougies had ik er indd ook uit.
En de dynamo heeft toch zijn lampje nodig( wat in het dashboard zit)
Anders wordt hij niet bekrachtigd.
Maar ik kan dus nergens olie in laten lopen?
Dan morgen maar starten zolang het nodig is.
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Shalom74 schreef:zal ik het spulletje maar eens uitbouwen om dus ook de sleepcontacten in te vetten.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it Joost!
Of verveel je je alweer?
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P.S. je schreef: “onder de waterpijp ter hoogte van de nokkenas een groet bout in het blok”
Geen idee welke bout je bedoelt, maar ik zou niet weten waarom het helpt om daar van opzij olie in te gieten. De pomp zuigt immers van onder uit het carter?
Aansluiting( waterpijp) zit boven het stalen leidinkje dat het olie kanaal van het blok met de kop verbind.
Links naast het inlaatspruitstuk.
En daar onder zit een grote bout( dop 21 )
En als de pomp vol zit met olie gaat het makkelijker.
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Maar waarom moet daar olie in? Die pomp zit daar toch helemaal niet?
Gewoon de pomp laten werken zoals hij bedoelt is. Hij zuigt aan vanuit het carter of niet.
Heb je de oliepomp uiteen genomen en de tandraders gecheckt op krassen of inslijten?
Dynamo heeft geen enkel nut op zulke lage toeren, kun je dus net zo goed niet aansluiten. Tenzij je de boel straks echt gaat laten lopen op benzine, maar dan nog zal de accu echt niet snel leeg raken van alleen die contactpuntjesontsteking.
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Pomp is goed.
En de dynamo wou ik nu ook nog niet gebruiken,maar straks als ik de hydrolyk wil testen zal de motor langer moeten draaien.
Maar als dat toch haast geen stroom verdoet,laat ik de dynamo achterwege.
Heb toch nog eens terug gekeken op de foto’s.
Maar naar mijn mening staat het kanaal achter de bout in verbinding met daar waar de nokkenas doorgaat.
En als die vol loopt dan loopt de pomp ook vol.
En als die vol is kan die makkelijker aan de gang komen.
Corrigeer als dit niet klopt
Bedankt zover
VgF.
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Fred, als alles goed is moet je met hooguit een minuut doorstarten zonder bougies oliedruk hebben. Let wel: een minuut lijkt dan erg lang! Net als dat bloed altijd veel lijkt.
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jantje1948 schreef:Fred, als alles goed is moet je met hooguit een minuut doorstarten zonder bougies oliedruk hebben. Let wel: een minuut lijkt dan erg lang! Net als dat bloed altijd veel lijkt.
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Sorry
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Nog steeds geen oliedruk
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Hoe lang heb je dat ding nu rond laten gaan op de startmotor?
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Paar keer over ongeveer een minuut.
Maar ik zit effe te kijken.kan het zijn dat er te weinig olie inzit( 4,5 liter)
Wphb geeft aan na demontage 5.8 liter.
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