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De aansluiting van de lage snelheid gaat via de ventilatoren in serie naar de plus. Dat zou de 8 ohm kunnen zijn. Maar dan zouden ze wat weinig vermogen hebben… En dat houdt automatisch in dat het thermocontact naar massa schakelt.
Als je de pluspool weer op de accu legt en deze draad aan massa zouden ze allebei op de lage stand moeten gaan blazen.
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In het schema staat inderdaad een aansluiting met 3 groene draden.
Bij mij is eentje bruin, en het ziet er knap origineel uit.
Ook snap ik nu waarom cxj 12 volt meet, dat is namelijk via een relais.
Maar er moet dus nog een andere zijn die 12 volt geeft.
En de derde moet idd massa zijn.
Maar hoe zit het dan bij mij????
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F.SvM schreef:Lage snelheid. | | plus
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Hoge snelheid
Hier staat het toch!
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erikkuiper schreef:
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In het schema staat inderdaad een aansluiting met 3 groene draden.
Bij mij is eentje bruin, en het ziet er knap origineel uit.
Ook snap ik nu waarom cxj 12 volt meet, dat is namelijk via een relais.
Maar er moet dus nog een andere zijn die 12 volt geeft.
En de derde moet idd massa zijn.Maar hoe zit het dan bij mij????
Die bruine schakelt met de massa via het thermocontact ( lage snelheid)
Als die is ingeschakeld en de thermostaat gaat voor de tweede snelheid,wordt de plus geschakeld naar de andere dikke draad en zo schakeld de andere snelheid in.
VgF
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nee, want hij wordt volgens schema aan de massa geschakeld.
dwz 1 gemeenschappelijke massa.
er staat dus 12 volt op de 2 andere draden via 2 relaisspoelen.
het is dus ook niet zo dat de stroom van de ventilatoren door de thermostaat loopt.
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Erik ik heb het gisteren nog getest,en het is dus wel zo.
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Dus schemas weggooien?
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F.SvM schreef:erikkuiper schreef:
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In het schema staat inderdaad een aansluiting met 3 groene draden.
Bij mij is eentje bruin, en het ziet er knap origineel uit.
Ook snap ik nu waarom cxj 12 volt meet, dat is namelijk via een relais.
Maar er moet dus nog een andere zijn die 12 volt geeft.
En de derde moet idd massa zijn.Maar hoe zit het dan bij mij????
Die bruine schakelt met de massa via het thermocontact ( lage snelheid)
Als die is ingeschakeld en de thermostaat gaat voor de tweede snelheid,wordt de plus geschakeld naar de andere dikke draad en zo schakeld de andere snelheid in.
VgF
Ik heb dit dus getest door er een twaalf volt lampje tussen te zetten,en op 1 van de twee dikke draden begon die te branden en of het nu minder dan twaalf was weet ik niet,maar hij Brande wel.
En of je nu een turbo hebt of een platte diesel,een twee standen thermo contact werkt nu eenmaal zo.
VgF
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erikkuiper schreef:Dus schemas weggooien?
Dat zeg ik niet.
Zal eens meten of het 12 volt is of rest stroom.
Het is in ieder geval zo,dat de draad waar het lampje op gaat branden aan de kant moet waar ik plus schreef.
VgF
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Die test met lampje is ook niet 100% waterdicht natuurlijk.
Maar ik begin het hele sterke vermoeden te krijgen dat er 2 versies in omloop zijn.
Met drie groene draden (die ook cxj heeft en zoals in het schema )en met 2 groene en een bruine draad ( die ik heb en frank denk ik ook)
De eerste zal dan massa geschakeld zijn, en de ander aan de pluskant.
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Gewoon eventjes het schema er bij zoeken dus.
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Frank, jouw test bewijst alleen dat er 12V op komt, niet waar die vandaan komt. Als de ventilator zelf door het contact geschakeld zou worden kun je de relais weggooien. De spoelen van de relais worden door het thermocontact met massa verbonden, waardoor de relais bekrachtigd worden en de ventilatoren parallel of in serie, met 12V worden verbonden.
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Jan en Yuri het klopt helemaal wat jullie zeggen.
Maar door het op mijn manier te doen kun je het simpelst zien waar je drie draden moeten zitten.
En de TS had drie draden waarvan hij zeker wist dat ze aan het thermo contact moesten alleen niet hoe.
Om andere dingen te meten of te weten moet je toch een goed schema hebben.
En die draad waar ik ” plus ” constateerde komt inderdaad vanaf het relais .
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Het enige dat je moet vinden zijn de 2 pinnetjes die als eerste verbonden worden. = lage stand. De derde wordt er daarna bij geschakeld en maakt het weer niet uit hoe ze erop zitten. Uit mn hoofd schakelt de dwarse eerst de rechtse als je erop kijkt en daarna de linkse erbij. Dus probeer welke twee draden de fans in lage stand aanzetten en doe die op dwars en rechts.
Ik zal vanavond kijken welke wat is.
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