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En mag ik vragen waar die sensor in de cilinderkop zich ergens bevindt? Ontluchten deed ik vroeger op waterpomp/rad/kvs vatje (heb dat genoeg moeten doen bij werken aan dynamo)
Zou het dan kunnen dat door die luchtbel, het snel warmer geworden is in en rond de motor en dat hij daardoor na 10 minuten al gek deed, alhoewel nee, dat kan niet, want verleden week hebben we ruim 2 uur file gehad op ring van Brussel en ging alles voorbeeldig, hm…




























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Heb alleen even een plaatje van een dieselblok bij de hand, maar verwacht dat het bij een benzineblok niet heel veel anders zal zijn.
De sensor met de blauwe steker is het, daarboven zie je de ontluchtingsnippel.
Bij dit blok is de ontluchtingsnippel op de waterpomp als eens vervangen door een bout met een zeskantkop, op de foto helemaal rechts.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986






















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Duidelijk, eerst even wat demonteren, maar goed, alhoewel, eigenlijk zou ik er zo aan moeten kunnen, want ontluchten moet toch met draaiende motor hé, en volgens mij zit dat ding vlak onder mijn bobines, maar goed, das voor morgen, bedankt voor het duidelijke plaatje!




























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Ik ontlucht gewoon met stilstaande koude motor.
Zorg er voor dat er voldoende kvs in het expansievaatje zit.
Alle ontluchtingspunten zitten dan lager dan het niveau in het vaatje.
Nippel open, wet van de communicerende vaten en voila!
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986












































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Volgens mij zit die blauwe stekker bij een injectie achterop het blok aan de passagiers kant.
Ik kan me op die plek voorop bij de waterpomp geen stekker herinneren.




























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Is bij een diesel ook de achterzijde van de kop.
Onderkant foto is voorzijde motor.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986












































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Je dat klopt, maar de stekker wijst naar voren zeg maar, bij een injectie naar achteren.






















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Ik zal er morgen plaatje van maken :p












































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Hier zit de blauwe stekker, in de buurt van de luchtschuif achterop het blok.
Maar ik denk niet dat daar de ontluchtingsnippel ook zit





























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Is dat niet de sensor voor de injectie? Die is er namelijk ook nog.
ex 2cv 15pk, 11BL 1938, dspecial 1973, ds pallas 23 IE bvh 1973, gs, austin princess 2300, cx 2400 break, bx 19 d, cx 2500 trd, xm 2.0 16v, mgb, mgc, Suzuki vitara, ds 21 ie pallas 1971, saxo 1.1i, sm 2.7 ie, xantia 2.0 16v, C5 3.0V6 exclusive, C4 1.6HDI, C4 1.6 16v.




























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Motortype is toch M25/659, 2500 injectie zonder turbo?
Opgezocht in het WPH, blad MA 230.003, de sensor zit vanaf juli 1985 aan de achterzijde van de motor tussen de inlaatkanalen van cilinder 2 en 3.
Ontluchtingsnippels zitten wel op dezelfde locaties als een diesel.
Edit: zie Arjans foto!
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986






















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Indeed, de nippel zit op dezelfde plaats als het dieselblok (lekker onbereikbaar bij een 2500i), de stekker vlakbij de motorsteun. Ondertussen ontlucht, er kwam ietwat lucht uit bij de waterpomp, voor de rest eigenlijk niets… olie in compressortje gedaan, das in ieder geval veel beter, het schrapende geluid is eruit. de stekkers aan de injectiemodule eens ingevet met vaseline en voor de rest, tsja, weer eens rijden zeker, maar dan met backup Misschien met een reserve injectiemodule en bobines in de koffer…
Ik heb ook gezien dat er bij elk van de 2 bobines 3 draden toekomen, 2 gele en 1 groene, maar die groene is maar 10 cm lang en dan hangt daar een stekkertje aan en houd het op, is precies nergens op aangesloten en dat is bij beide bobines zo. Terwijl ik op foto’s van Arjan bij zijn Turbo zag dat die 2 draadjes wel aangesloten waren, of was dat iets enkel voor de turbo modellen?












































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Die groene draden (met zwarte stekkers denk ik?) zijn voor de ontstoringtransistors, ik vermoed alleen om storing op je radio te voorkomen.
Ik denk niet dat die noodzakelijk zijn voor een goed rijdende 2500 IE
Heb je overigens wel al op valse lucht gecontroleerd?





























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Je bedoelt ontstoringscondensatoren, denk ik.
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Yep, gisteren nog… eens goed geknepen en getrokken her en der, geen verschil.
Het lijkt echt alsof alles verkeerd gaat als hij dat horten en stoten heeft, vreemd, vooral dat het even plots weer over kan zijn…