Voor een kennis in de buurt probeer ik zijn 25 gti aan het lopen te krijgen. De auto heeft gewoon gereden tot de winter. Na de stallingsperiode sloeg hij heel even aan om daarna tot nu te zwijgen.
Wat heb ik tot nu toe gecontroleerd:
De bougies vonken.
De benzinepomp brengt de benzine tot aan de injectiegalerij.
De auto loopt heel even op startpilot.
Het injectierelais is uitgewisseld voor een nieuwe.
Het is dus een brandstofprobleem. De injectoren worden kennelijk niet goed aangestuurd? Ik heb op de stekerverbinding van de injectoren een multimeter aangesloten maar meet geen duidelijke 12 volt.
Alle mij bekende verbindingen heb ik gecontroleerd. Ben ik iets vergeten? iemand nog een idee
wat meet je op de injectoren ??? rond de 3,5V ???
Is het eentje met LMM ??? Heeft hij een BDP sensor ??
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citroen23 schreef:
Is het eentje met LMM ???
Alle cx’en met IE hebben een LMM
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
gediplomeerd Citroën Specialist!
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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Ja, klopt. Het is een serie 1 25ie. Als ik het schema bekijk moet er continu 12 volt op de injectoren staan. De computer schakelt vervolgens de injectoren aan de nul. Het lijkt me niet heel waarschijnlijk dat plotseling de injectiecomputer defect is.
Ik heb het schema voor me van een 24IE. Is die hetzelfde als van een 25IE 1e serie ?? zo ja, dan zit er tegen het schutboard een kastje met 4 voorschakel weerstanden t.b.v. de injectoren.
heb je je BDP sensor al gecontroleerd ??? weerstand meten op pen 1 en 6 diagnosestekker.
Citroën SM: Ceci n’est pas une voiture…..c’est un art de vivre !!
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Alle stekker verbindingen al nagelopen? Niet ondenkbaar dat er inmiddels een slecht contact is na het stilstaan.
Een 83er zal nog 2 BDP sensoren hebben, lijkt me ook de moeite waard om deze te wisselen door een getest exemplaar.











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Doet me aan mijn verhaal denken. Auto in de herfst lopend weggezet en in voorjaar even lopen en weer afslaan, om daar geen krimp meer te geven…
M.i. Gaan in die paar maanden stilstand niet ineens stekkers loszitten oid., aannemende dat voor het ‘ophokken’ de auto gewoon goed liep.
Dus wellicht van buiten komend onheil… Muizen…
maartens schreef:Inmiddels is er meer duidelijk….
De bonus gaat naar Hans, met zijn suggestie over een muis.Welnu, niet één muis, maar een hele (dode) kudde van die beesten bevolkten mijn luchtfilter
Onder in het luchtfilterhuis lag een muizensoep van dode dieren. Vreselijke stank kwam me tegemoet.
Het huis was zo vies dat ik met een plamuurmes de beesten eruit moetsschrapen. Daarna het hele ding gestraald en op nieuw in de verf gezet, al is het maar om de stank kwijt te zijn.
Maar wat doe je als muis met ambitie? Dan knaag je door het luchtfilter ...
en komt er aan de andere kant weer uit
maar zelfs dat is niet genoeg en je kruipt in de luchtmassameter….
die er dan zo komt uit te zien:
Maar erger nog. De luchtklep zit vast….!
Na rijkelijk kruipolie te hebben toegediend, is de zaak weer schoon en beweegt de klep weer zoals het hoort.
Nu maar hopen dat mijn LLM geen schade heeft opgelopen.
Vraag: weet iemand het nummer van het luchtfilter? Ik meen me te herinneren dat je die gewoon nog in een automaterialenzaak kunt bestellen. Op het filter zelf staat geen nummer. Iemand een idee?
mijn Prestige: http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Album=DQOIQAKQ
ex: BX 16TRS, BX 16TRI, XM 2.0, DSuper 5, Xantia 1.8 16v, BX 16TZI
@maartens, luchtfilter e.d. heb ik losgehad en voorzien van nieuw filter, Geen muizen gezien
@arjan, de ontsteking is goed. Het is 100 % zeker een injectie probleem.
Vraag: van de retour kant van de injectiegalerij, daar waar de drukregelaar zit, komt geen benzine uit. Ook niet als ik aan het slangetje zuig tijdens starten. Is dat normaal?


























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Blijft de benzinepomp lopen? Het blauwe Bosch-relais onder de rechter koplamp (tenminste - daar zit ie bij mijn 85-er) is berucht ...












































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Ook al is het een probleem bij de (aansturing) van de injectoren kan het toch nog steeds een brakke stekker verbinding zijn?
Benzinepomp blijft lopen. Blauwe relais is vervangen. Het kan wel een slecht contact zij alhoewel ik ze gecontroleerd heb.












































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Stekers onder het reserve wiel?
Stekkers van beide computer? Wellicht is het vocht in het interieur gekomen?
Stekker op de LMM is ook kritisch.
BDP sensor had je daar al iets mee gedaan? Of heeft dat alleen invloed op de vonk, niet op de injectoren? Dat weet ik eigenlijk niet.
Heb ik allemaal na gelopen. Bdp is voor de vonk.












































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Computers uitwisselen dan maar?