


Totaal aantal Berichten: 267
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- 2CV Club
- CX 2.2 Pallas
3 x Hankook van hierboven besteld, ervaringen zijn wel goed en je kan niet echt een buil vallen voor 45 euro ex montage.
https://www.autobandentest.com/web/pages/zomerbanden/hankook/optimo-k715
2 nieuwe Hankook banden op de vooras en 1 nieuwe Hankook als reserveband, de huidige nog prima maar te kleine voorbanden (Michelin Energy) gaan naar achteren.
Hopelijk zijn ze nu wel leverbaar, via bandenleader.nl en montage bij een James Autoservice in de buurt die zelf een paar DS’en heeft dus dat wel wel goed komen.
Citroen 2CV6 1985, Citroën CX Pallas 1976, Nissan Qashqai 2015, Fiat Panda 2010 , Dyane 1968
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- CX 25 GTi Turbo 2
- ID/DS 23 IE Pallas Mécanique
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Nieuwe banden op de achteras!
Voorbanden oprijden, daarna wisselen en weer nieuwe banden achterop.
Beste banden achter, geen last van uitgedroogde achterbanden door weinig slijtage en nooit meer 4 nieuwe banden tegelijk hoeven kopen.
Nope: de beste banden ALTIJD voor! Dan heb je de meeste kans om je auto onder controle te houden bij onverwachte uitwijkmanoeuvres.
Wim,
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- C3 Pluriel 1.6 16v sensodrive
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Niet dus, Arjan heeft gelijk.
Google maar eens.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Op een slipcursus leer je dus dat de beste banden voor moeten. Waarom? Je stuurt met de voorkant en dan wil je heel graag dat die banden grip hebben.
Wim,
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De grootste krachten op de banden worden veroorzaakt tijdens het remmen.
Een auto met een glijdende achterkant is onbestuurbaar, ook dat leer je op een slipcursus.
Dus achter altijd de meeste grip.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986



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Om jullie allemaal uit de droom te helpen, mijn huidige voorbanden zijn zgan, niets mis mee alleen te kleine maat en die wil ik niet op de voorwielen, lees maar even terug.
https://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/229041/P60/#1990823
En de calculator:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=185-70r14-185-80r14
Citroen 2CV6 1985, Citroën CX Pallas 1976, Nissan Qashqai 2015, Fiat Panda 2010 , Dyane 1968
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- CX 25 GTi Turbo 2
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wimb schreef:Op een slipcursus leer je dus dat de beste banden voor moeten. Waarom? Je stuurt met de voorkant en dan wil je heel graag dat die banden grip hebben.
Op een CX heb je waarschijnlijk al 2 of 3 set voorbanden versleten en dan zit er nog dik profiel op de achterbanden. Ze worden oud en drogen uit.
Als je ze dus wisselt rijdt je in de praktijk nooit op slechte en/of oud banden (totdat je ze op rijdt).
Zoals René al zegt remmen doe je met de voorkant, in de praktijk heb ik een noodstop moeten maken dan een uitwijk actie. En juist ook met uitwijken kan het gevaarlijk zijn als de achterkant grip verliest.
Het blijft een discussie en uiteindelijk altijd een compromis.
Want je wil het liefst gewoon altijd 4 nieuwe banden
Zoals je zelf al zegt, de meeste remkracht gaat naar de voorwielen en daarom wil je daar de meeste grip hebben. Maar als jullie het graag beter weten: sterkte!
Wim,
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Kan ik je hier mee overtuigen?
Ik verkeerde jarenlang in dezelfde veronderstelling als jou, totdat ik een keer op tv een test zag.
Sindsdien zitten bij mij de beste banden achter.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
Ik blijf het toch een moeilijke discussie vinden…
Het hangt er maar net vanaf in welke situatie je terecht komt.
Als je op een flink natte weg plotseling moet remmen heb je denk ik het meeste aan goed profiel op de voorbanden. De achterbanden hebben minder water te verstouwen omdat de weg al droger is gereden door de voorbanden.
Als je gaat uitwijken in deze situatie is diep profiel achter weer net zo belangrijk.
Op een droge weg is minder profiel weer gunstig, F1 rijdt niet voor niets op slicks…
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- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
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- CX 2200 diesel super
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Een cx breekt achter uit!
Wat René zegt; de beste banden achter!
Om het te proberen moet je eigenlijk een break hebben,dan snap je het meteen.
Maar met een gewone cx is het ook zeer raadzaam.
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
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H@ns schreef:De achterbanden hebben minder water te verstouwen omdat de weg al droger is gereden door de voorbanden.
Niet bijvoorbeeld bij een ID/DS, door het grote verschil in spoorbreedte rijden de achterwielen daar hun eigen spoor.
Citroën en stock: DS23 Break Confort 1973, DS23IE Pallas bvm 1974, CX25TGD Turbo 2 ambulance 1990
Autres véhicules: 2x Moto Guzzi Le Mans II 1980, Peugeot 205 Accent 1.1 1993
Possédé et conduit: Honda CB500F 1974, 2CV6 1972, Renault 4F6 1977, CX2400 Super Break 1979, GSA1300 Service Tolée 1983, BX14RE 1983, BX19TRD Turbo Break 1989, XM2.1TD Break Ambiance 1994, AX1.4TGS 1993, AX1.1TGE 1995, CX25TRD Turbo 1 berline 1986
De achterbanden hebben meestal een andere (smallere) maat dus dat is weer een apart verhaal…
Die komen dus niet vóór
Bovendien slijten ze veel minder, drogen alleen maar uit…
Okee, injectiemodellen hebben dan wel weer dezelfde maat. En breaks ook bedenk ik me net…
René Jongejan schreef:Kan ik je hier mee overtuigen?
Nee. Probeer je de volgende situatie maar eens in te beelden:
Het regent en dus heb je slecht zicht. Op het laatste moment ontdek je dat de auto’s voor stevig in de ankers gaan. Je hebt een reactietijd, dus al een aardig aantal meters afgelegd voordat je begint te reageren waardoor je remweg te kort is. Ergo: remmen + uitwijken. Die manoevre lukt alleen als de auto ook daadwerkelijk daarheen gaat waar jij hem stuurt. Nogmaals, dat lukt je alleen met goede grip voor.
En dit soort situaties komt vaak genoeg voor om dat als leidend uitgangspunt te nemen.
Wim,
Disciplus Simplex