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Geregistreerd: 22-03-2005
- GS/GSA 1220 club break
- Overig Panhard 17 break
- GS/GSA X1
- ID/DS DS23H Pallas
- ID/DS ID20F break 21 5-bak
Heb je eraan gedacht dat er in een motorsteun ook metaal zit (nogal veel zelfs)?
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 25637
Geregistreerd: 31-07-2003
- Ami 6
- SM 2.7 i.e.
jajaja maar de binnen as is geisoleerd van het buitenhuis. Anders zou is heel erg trillen!!
Maak em maar open!!
Zelfbenoemd Citroën Specialist!
Main Entry: bo·gart
Pronunciation: ‘bO-“gärt
Function: verb
1 : BULLY, INTIMIDATE.
2 : to use or consume without sharing. <don’t bogart that joint, pass it over>
Tsja.. dat van die motorsteunen leek me ook al stug, maar de minkabel zou het niet meer kunnen zijn. die is vervangen voor nieuw, met nieuwe ogen en ik heb de boel netjes blank gemaakt. vreemd, vreemd…





















Totaal aantal Berichten: 2259
Geregistreerd: 28-04-2006
- CX 2400 GTi
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas hydraulique
DriverD schreef:Normaal gesproken krijgt het motorblok zijn massa via de motorsteunen. Bij jouw DS zit daar blijkbaar een heel grote overgangsweerstand. Het advies van de ANWB om chassis aan motorblok te verbinden door een extra minkabel is dan logisch.
Eh… normaal gesproken krijgt het motorblok z’n massa van de dikke minkabel naar de accu! Het chassis heeft een aparte massa, het dunnere kabeltje, maar dit dient voor andere zaken zoals verlichting.
Blijkbaar is bij de TS of de kabel tussen accu en waterpomp toch defect, of is de waterpomp op een of andere manier geisoleerd van het motorblok?












































Totaal aantal Berichten: 25637
Geregistreerd: 31-07-2003
- Ami 6
- SM 2.7 i.e.
fluidphreak schreef:
Eh… normaal gesproken krijgt het motorblok z’n massa van de dikke minkabel naar de accu! Het chassis heeft een aparte massa, het dunnere kabeltje, maar dit dient voor andere zaken zoals verlichting.
Juist!
fluidphreak schreef:
Blijkbaar is bij de TS of de kabel tussen accu en waterpomp toch defect, of is de waterpomp op een of andere manier geisoleerd van het motorblok?
Dat denk ik ook. Meet de weerstand van dat ding maar eens.
Zelfbenoemd Citroën Specialist!
Main Entry: bo·gart
Pronunciation: ‘bO-“gärt
Function: verb
1 : BULLY, INTIMIDATE.
2 : to use or consume without sharing. <don’t bogart that joint, pass it over>





















Totaal aantal Berichten: 2967
Geregistreerd: 15-01-2007
- ID/DS DSuper LPG 4bak Méchanique
Waterpomp van aluminium, met oxidatielaag erop?
















Totaal aantal Berichten: 1533
Geregistreerd: 26-06-2006
- Traction Avant 11BL
- ID/DS 23IE Pallas mech
- (Grand) C4 Picasso 1.8 Ambiance
bogaard77 schreef:Verder zitten er allerlei metalen leidingen aan het blok via welke de stroom naar het chassis kan. Maar dat is natuurlijk niet de bedoeling!!
Bijvoorbeeld de volledige startstroom (250A) door je benzine leiding
Ik had hetzelfde een paar weken terug, de startmotor ging nog maar met moeite rond (2 kruk-as omwentelingen per seconde), daardoor trok de accu het niet meer. Over-en-uit met de startmotor. Meteen de dag er op een nieuwe gemonteerd (zie ander draadje) en starten als de brandweer; zeker 10 kruk-as omwentelingen per seconde
Ik ben bang dat je aan een nwe startmotor zal moeten geloven: iets meer dan 200 euro, exclusief omruil…...
Wel een top-investering!
Du pain, du vin et… Citroën!
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 43336
Geregistreerd: 26-02-2005
- Overig Jaguar 3.4 litre saloon
- Overig Someca SOM 20D
- Overig Volvo C70n
camemBert schreef:Bijvoorbeeld de volledige startstroom (250A) door je benzine leiding
Uhh…. die is van kunsstof op een Ds
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
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Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 10298
Geregistreerd: 22-03-2005
- GS/GSA 1220 club break
- Overig Panhard 17 break
- GS/GSA X1
- ID/DS DS23H Pallas
- ID/DS ID20F break 21 5-bak
fluidphreak schreef:DriverD schreef:Normaal gesproken krijgt het motorblok zijn massa via de motorsteunen. Bij jouw DS zit daar blijkbaar een heel grote overgangsweerstand. Het advies van de ANWB om chassis aan motorblok te verbinden door een extra minkabel is dan logisch.
Eh… normaal gesproken krijgt het motorblok z’n massa van de dikke minkabel naar de accu! Het chassis heeft een aparte massa, het dunnere kabeltje, maar dit dient voor andere zaken zoals verlichting.
En waar krijgt de accu zijn massa dan vandaan, denk je?
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 2259
Geregistreerd: 28-04-2006
- CX 2400 GTi
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas hydraulique
Van zichzelf? de minpool van de accu IS de massa
Het chassis zit als het goed is niet tussen de startmotor en de accu












































Totaal aantal Berichten: 25637
Geregistreerd: 31-07-2003
- Ami 6
- SM 2.7 i.e.
INDERDAAD! Drivert, was je ziek tijdens elektrocollege?
Zelfbenoemd Citroën Specialist!
Main Entry: bo·gart
Pronunciation: ‘bO-“gärt
Function: verb
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 10298
Geregistreerd: 22-03-2005
- GS/GSA 1220 club break
- Overig Panhard 17 break
- GS/GSA X1
- ID/DS DS23H Pallas
- ID/DS ID20F break 21 5-bak
Heb altijd begrepen dat bij (niet-Engelse) auto het chassis de massa is. Hebben jullie dat anders geleerd?
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 25637
Geregistreerd: 31-07-2003
- Ami 6
- SM 2.7 i.e.
Kwestie van definitie. Als je de massa ziet als het punt waar alle stroom naar toe vloeit, doe je jezelf te kort met het chassis. Dan mis je de startmotor.
Er zijn wel auto’s die het blok geaard hebben naar het chassis en de min pool ook. Dan klopt het wel.
Zelfbenoemd Citroën Specialist!
Main Entry: bo·gart
Pronunciation: ‘bO-“gärt
Function: verb
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2 : to use or consume without sharing. <don’t bogart that joint, pass it over>





























Totaal aantal Berichten: 10398
Geregistreerd: 21-04-2006
- Overig Mercedes CLA 250 shooting brake
Het chassis ligt aan massa!
Van + via dikke kabel naar startmotor, dan via blok en dikke - kabel naar de - pool van de accu. Dat is een gesloten kring en zou normaliter moeten werken. Is dat zo moeilijk?
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 2259
Geregistreerd: 28-04-2006
- CX 2400 GTi
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas hydraulique
DriverD schreef:Heb altijd begrepen dat bij (niet-Engelse) auto het chassis de massa is. Hebben jullie dat anders geleerd?
Natuurlijk heb je gelijk. Maar mijn punt is dat, zover het de startmotor betreft, het chassis—bij de DS—eigenlijk niet meedoet.