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Geregistreerd: 12-01-2006
- Ami 8 Break
- CX Athéna
Ik loop me al een poos af te vragen hoe een motor een specifiek geluid produceerd. Neem nou de 150 blokjes, die gillen en janken zo leuk. Een 2cv of GS motor heeft ook een eigen geluid maar ook de Renault blokjes (die met de distriketting) en de oude Opel blokken. Ik kan me zo voorstellen dat dat mede komt door evt. tandwielen in het blok maar daar verwacht ik een meer gierend geluid van zoals een versnellingsbak dat heeft.
Wie kan me vertellen waardoor die geluiden er zijn.
Hmm, als ik de vraag zelf na lees denk ik direct, wat een vreemde vraag, maar ik wil het toch weten
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- Ami 8 berline
- CX 20 Familiale
De hele constructie heeft invloed. Interne mechanische delen. Maar natuurlijk ook het inlaattraject. De uitlaat. De vorm en issolatie van de motorruimte e.d.
Fabrikanten besteden serieus tijd en geld aan het “tunen” van het geluid van de auto… ook hoe een deurklink klinkt enzo….
Maar wel grappig dat je oude auto’s aan het geluid kan herkennen…
Met amicale groet,
Ami 8 berline, 1977, Bleu Myosotis.
Ami 6 club berline, 1969, wit met rood dak
C5 2.2hdi berline
Kijk ook eens op: www.amivereniging.nl
Ook de vorm en constructie van het luchtfilterhuis doet enorm veel in de geluidsproductie.
Bij Porsche kon ( kan ? ) men bvb als optie een aangepaste luchtfilterconstructie bestellen om indertijd het flatsix geluid “doordringender” te laten overkomen.
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Totaal aantal Berichten: 1120
Geregistreerd: 12-01-2006
- Ami 8 Break
- CX Athéna
De geluiden die de cilinders maken snap ik, dat heeft inderdaad te maken met de uitlaat, luchtfilter, boxer, lijn of V opstelling enz.
Wat ik me af vraag is waar het gekrijs/geschreeuw vandaan komt bij bv de 150 blokjes uit de Visa, BX, LN/A te horen is. Lastig te omschrijven, ik weet precies wat ik bedoel maar kan het moeilijk verwoorden.
Nog een voorbeeld is het “oeoeoeoe” geluid wat een koude Renault motor maakt. Een Renault 19 Chamade die we ooit als vervangend vervoer hadden omdat de BX het, in Frankrijk notabene, had begeven maakte dat geluid ook na een koude start. Hoe warmer de motor hoe minder het geluid tot het weg was.
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- Xantia Turbo C.T. Activa "Merak"
Das een vraag die mij ook al lang bezighoudt. Wellicht is het een idee om van een losliggend 2CV blok steeds weer een onderdeeltje af te halen, om ‘m daarna weer te starten en te laten lopen.
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Zo zou ik m’n motor willen starten. Ik kan dromen, nietwaar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEYEcVQklvY












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- Ami 8 Break
- CX Athéna
Ik heb ook al eens bedacht om een motor op schaal na te maken en dan eens bekijken wat welk geluid maakt. Maar ja dat is het bekende wiel opnieuw uitvinden… Dan is het handiger om een bestaand blok te ontleden .
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- Xantia TD SX
Leuke vraag! Oude Mercedes diesels pik je er ook altijd zó uit. En zescilinder lijnmotoren van BMW.
Bij de Mercedes diesels moet het ook haast wel in het blok zitten. Die dingen klinken hetzelfde, of je ze nou in een bus of een personenauto hebt zitten…
Derk
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- Dyane 6
- GS/GSA Break Club
- CX Familiale ex-ambulance
En het 1130 boxertje van Draakje ‘zingt’ toch ook weer heel anders dan de 1300 van Geeskje, terwijl die blokken vrijwel identiek zijn.
Als ik het fonetisch doe dan klinkt Draakje als “Prioewuuu” en Geeskje als “Gwrouoeaa” bij het gas geven.
En toch zijn ze beide direct herkenbaar als citroën boxertjes… ra ra.
Ouwe meuk is leuk!
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Exen:
Elsie, Dyane Commerciale 92-06-EL
Geeskje, GSA Special 24-GJ-LT
Liesje, GSA X1 LL-28-GD
Draakje, GSA Special GY-33-ZV
Pekeltje, GSA Pallas C-Matic GZ-63-PX
Bea, BX Deauville GF-LV-30






















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- C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige G3
- BX 1.9 GTI
En wat te denken van de Ford diesels? Die in de vorige Mondeo en Transit zitten? Hebben ook allemaal een heel eigen, herkenbaar geluid.
C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige 37-PP-RP / BX 1.9 GTI RK-55-NV
Ex: AX 1.1i Harmonie PZ-BL-99 / AX 1.1i Allure LD-LR-40 / ZX 1.8i 16V Audace Break XR-RN-08 / AX 1.4i TZX DH-RP-44 / ZX 1.9D Avantage JV-RH-88 / C5 1.8i 16V Ligne Prestige 54-HK-DJ / C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige BVA 27-JD-FX / Xsara 1.6i 16V VTR Coupe 86-JL-KK / Xsara 1.4i Difference II 23-NX-VJ / XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive BVA 74-RFD-3












































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- CX 25 GTi Turbo 2
- ID/DS 23 IE Pallas Mécanique
- C5 3.0 V6 HDi Exclusive
Dat heeft denk ik vooral te maken met in in en uitlaat traject
Verschillen daarin maken het geluid.
Volgens mij met de plaatsing van de verstuivers, die dingen hameren gewoon, dat is toch geen inlaat geluid.
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- C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige G3
- BX 1.9 GTI
Inderdaad Paso, ze hebben allemaal datzelfde geratel en gehamer…
C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige 37-PP-RP / BX 1.9 GTI RK-55-NV
Ex: AX 1.1i Harmonie PZ-BL-99 / AX 1.1i Allure LD-LR-40 / ZX 1.8i 16V Audace Break XR-RN-08 / AX 1.4i TZX DH-RP-44 / ZX 1.9D Avantage JV-RH-88 / C5 1.8i 16V Ligne Prestige 54-HK-DJ / C5 2.0i 16V Ligne Prestige BVA 27-JD-FX / Xsara 1.6i 16V VTR Coupe 86-JL-KK / Xsara 1.4i Difference II 23-NX-VJ / XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive BVA 74-RFD-3












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Geregistreerd: 12-01-2006
- Ami 8 Break
- CX Athéna
Midfriesland schreef:En het 1130 boxertje van Draakje ‘zingt’ toch ook weer heel anders dan de 1300 van Geeskje, terwijl die blokken vrijwel identiek zijn.
Als ik het fonetisch doe dan klinkt Draakje als “Prioewuuu” en Geeskje als “Gwrouoeaa” bij het gas geven.
En toch zijn ze beide direct herkenbaar als citroën boxertjes… ra ra.
Precies wat ik bedoel! Vooral dat ra ra . De 1130jes klinken meer als een 2cv blok. Vind ik persoonlijk wel erg mooi. Mijn 1130 doet inderdaad het zelfde. Klinkt niet echt als een draak trouwens, veel te lief
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Net als de Ford en Merceres diesels zijn de Renault/Volvo 340 diesels ook erg herkenbaar.
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- Dyane 6
- GS/GSA Break Club
- CX Familiale ex-ambulance
Dit vond ik ook wel grappig. Als je je ogen dicht doet dan doet het denken aan… wat het is, een 6 cilinder boxer. Maar dan van lego en aangedreven met lucht!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UtzHSLEF1U
Ouwe meuk is leuk!
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Exen:
Elsie, Dyane Commerciale 92-06-EL
Geeskje, GSA Special 24-GJ-LT
Liesje, GSA X1 LL-28-GD
Draakje, GSA Special GY-33-ZV
Pekeltje, GSA Pallas C-Matic GZ-63-PX
Bea, BX Deauville GF-LV-30





















Totaal aantal Berichten: 2777
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- Dyane 6
- GS/GSA Break Club
- CX Familiale ex-ambulance
Oh, en mijn draakje klinkt ook best wel lief. Klinkt inderdaad meer als een eend/ami.
Alleen kucht ze nogal na en ze is behoorlijk incontinent… Dinsdag ff kijken of we haar blokje er uit kunnen krijgen.
Ouwe meuk is leuk!
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Exen:
Elsie, Dyane Commerciale 92-06-EL
Geeskje, GSA Special 24-GJ-LT
Liesje, GSA X1 LL-28-GD
Draakje, GSA Special GY-33-ZV
Pekeltje, GSA Pallas C-Matic GZ-63-PX
Bea, BX Deauville GF-LV-30












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- Ami 8 Break
- CX Athéna
Dat is gaaf! Klinkt ook echt als een boxer. Zou dat een standaard bouwdoosje zijn?
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