Winterbanden geven ook met minder profiel betere prestaties in de winter dan zomerbanden. Dit komt omdat het rubber van winterbanden bij lagere temperaturen zachter is dan het rubber van zomerbanden.
Echt op sneeuw kom je profiel te kort, maar gelukkig hebben we dat in Nederland bijna nooit. Op het koude asfalt heb je absoluut meer grip, kijk maar naar F1 waar ze ook met harde en zachte compound rubber rijden. Met zacht rijden ze betere rondetijden omdat ze meer grip hebben, zo moet je ook het verschil zien tussen zomer- en winterbanden.
Als ik jou was zou ik dus de beste banden voorop gooien (aangedreven wielen) en dan de mindere achterop.
Winterbanden zouden ook in Nederland sowieso verplicht moeten worden, het verschil met zomerbanden is onwaarschijnlijk. Bezuinigen op deze veiligheid is echt verkeerde zuinigheid!
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lucifer-rouge schreef:Als ik jou was zou ik dus de beste banden voorop gooien (aangedreven wielen) en dan de mindere achterop.
Als je voorwielen glibberen dan voel je dat direct en kunt je corrigeren met gas en stuur-bewegingen. Als je achterwielen glibberen ben je hopeloos verloren…
De beste banden voorop is een achterhaald principe. Kijk ook wat Michelin er over schrijft!
patje74 schreef:lucifer-rouge schreef:Als ik jou was zou ik dus de beste banden voorop gooien (aangedreven wielen) en dan de mindere achterop.
Als je voorwielen glibberen dan voel je dat direct en kunt je corrigeren met gas en stuur-bewegingen. Als je achterwielen glibberen ben je hopeloos verloren…
De beste banden voorop is een achterhaald principe. Kijk ook wat Michelin er over schrijft!
Ik heb het artikel gelezen en moet zeggen dat ik dit echt kolder vind. Je gaat dus de algehele grip van je auto slecht houden zodat je in een noodsituatie (waarin vaak de kwaliteit van de bestuurder het aller belangrijkste is) de boel heel misschien(!) de baas kan blijven?
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lucifer-rouge schreef:Ik heb het artikel gelezen en moet zeggen dat ik dit echt kolder vind.
Dat mag, we hebben er elders een draadje over lopen . Ik stel voor om die discussie daar verder te voeren.
patje74 schreef:lucifer-rouge schreef:Ik heb het artikel gelezen en moet zeggen dat ik dit echt kolder vind.
Dat mag, we hebben er elders een draadje over lopen . Ik stel voor om die discussie daar verder te voeren.
Dit draadje gaat vooral over wel of geen winterbanden waarin onwetendheid vooral zegeviert…
sorry fftopic
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Even losstaand van de discussie wel- of geen winterbanden, wel- of niet de beste sloffen vooraan..
Ik denk dat Arjan door moet rijden op zijn zomerbanden, óf de beslissing moet nemen om op winterbanden te gaan rijden. Maar dan wel echte winterbanden, dus met minimaal zes millimeter rondom.
Mijnsinziens zijn versleten winterbanden of een mix van zomer- en winterbanden niet veiliger dan goede zomerbanden, en zorgen dus voor een vals gevoel van veiligheid. En dat gevoel bepaalt nu juist of je behoedzaam rijdt, of juist wél de grens op gaat zoeken.
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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Ik heb er zelf inmiddels ook al even over nagedacht
Feit is dat ik er nu achterop nog zeer goede Michelin Pilot Exalto’s (zomerbanden) op heb liggen.
2 van de winterbanden vind ik tever heen, die wil ik er niet meer onder.
Mijn plan nu is om de achterbanden over te zetten op de velgen. En de winterbanden met iets van 4mm voorlopig voorop te zetten.
Ik weet dat je de beste banden achter moet hebben om te voorkomen dat je uitbreekt.
Maar ik probeer altijd mijn snelheid wel aan te passen als het regent in bochten e.d. Aangezien ik ook niet teveel motorvermogen heb heb ik bijna nog nooit gehad dat de achterkant uitbreekt, tenzij ik het bewust op ga zoeken, maar dat doe ik niet in druk verkeer met slechte omstandigheden
Ik wil de winterbanden voorop om vooral de remweg in koude en natte weeromstandigheden te verkorten
Aangezien ik toch veel snelweg rijdt en mijn ervaring is dat de ABS nog wel eens moet ingrijpen wil ik eens kijken of ik nu met winterbanden daar wat minder last van heb (ze remmen tegenwoordig overal voor midden op de snelweg ). Aangezien achterop bijna niet remt heeft wat niet zoveel zin.
Ook met optrekken wil er met koud en nat weer nog wel eens een wieltje spinnen hier of daar, ben benieuwd of dat ook dan wat verbeterd.
Na de winter zullen de bandjes met 4mm ook wel aardig versleten zijn, dan kunnen de zomerbanden er weer op en gaan ze denk ik weg.
Dan zien we volgend jaar wel weer verder in welke situatie we zitten met alles
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Ik wil de winterbanden voorop om vooral de remweg in koude en natte weeromstandigheden te verkorten
Aangezien ik toch veel snelweg rijdt en mijn ervaring is dat de ABS nog wel eens moet ingrijpen wil ik eens kijken of ik nu met winterbanden daar wat minder last van heb (ze remmen tegenwoordig overal voor midden op de snelweg). Aangezien achterop bijna niet remt heeft wat niet zoveel zin.
Ook met optrekken wil er met koud en nat weer nog wel eens een wieltje spinnen hier of daar, ben benieuwd of dat ook dan wat verbeterd.
Helemaal mee eens!
Toch zou ik zelf niet kiezen voor zo’n groot verschil in banden voor en achter. Ik zou toch rondom voor winterbanden kiezen, dan maar iets meer uitgeven. Het verschil in grip is fenomenaal en door half om te doen kan je auto toch wel wat onvoorspelbaar worden.
That reminds me, ff afspraak maken om mn winterbandjes er onder te laten zetten
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Afgelopen vrijdag zijn de VTS velgjes gemonteerd
Aangezien de winterbanden toch wat matig waren toch besloten rondom de zomerbanden te laten plaatsen. Hier is het profiel op alle 4 de banden nog zeer goed
De foto’s:
Ze kregen direct sneeuw te voorduren zaterdag
Velgen niet zichtbaar, maar wel leuke foto
Op de foto’s lijken de velgen en de auto schoon, maar dat zijn ze niet
Je zou haast zeggen, verlagen.
Ziet er gelikt uit Arjan!
Je zou haast zeggen, verlagen.
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Ziet er netjes uit.
Alleen wat ik jammer vind aan de Xsara’s. Dat het net lijkt of de voorkant hoger op zijn wielen staat dan achter!
Daarom had ik de mijne voor 40mm verlaagd, zodat hij optisch, op een gelijke hoogte staat als achter.
Maar goed de velgen maakt de jouwe een stuk sportiever!
Edit: Bart denkt er ook zo over!
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Thanx
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Na precies 1 week rijden waren de wielen al wel erg vies
Net maar even met een emmer en sponds snel schoongemaakt, de glans is gelukkig weer terug. Ze waren als grijs en dof
Het is natuurlijk ook een pittig weekje geweest met sneeuw en veel vies weer…
Valt me wel op dat er al erg veel zwart stipjes teer op zitten na 1 week
Bij de CX zijn die dichte velgen veel makkelijker schoon te houden, die worden nouwelijks vies…