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- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Heb je hem al laten schrikken? (effe en keer op de kop meppen)richting bak.
En heb je de stabelisator stan al los van je draag arm?
vriendelijke groet frank
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.
Na enige tijd weer een update. Er is in de tussentijd een hoop gebeurd. Ik heb lekker doorgesleuteld en een bekende specialist in het Zuiden des Lands heeft mij geholpen met wat laatste loodjes. Sinds de vorige update zijn onder andere de ashoezen, homokineet en bovenste fuseekogel linksvoor vervangen, een paar lekkages opgelost, nieuwe ruitensproeiertjes gemonteerd, de carterontluchtingsslang vervangen, de HD-bol vervangen, de oliedrukzender vervangen en de contactpuntjes vernieuwd. Ook heb ik de achterste zijruitjes opnieuw laten inlijmen. Dat was hard nodig, één van de raampjes werd er met 1 hand zo uitgetrokken . Verder zijn er 4 nieuwe Michelin’s gemonteerd. De bollen zijn gecontroleerd door Chyparse. De voorste bollen waren prima, de achterste bollen zijn gevuld, die waren nog maar half vol. Voor de mizikale omlijsting heb ik ook nog een nieuwe radio ingebouwd.
Maar… na het vele werk staat er nu een CX die technisch weer helemaal fris is en heerlijk zweeft met als beloning een verse APK!
Om het te vieren heb ik me ingeschreven voor de trip naar de Champs-Elysées. Lijkt me leuk om jullie daar te treffen!
Vandaag heb ik de bakolie ververst. Er is in andere topics al een en ander geschreven over de kleine en nog al onhandig geplaatste peilstokopening waardoor je moet bijvullen. Ik kocht bij de Gamma voor € 2,19 een trechter met zeefje en een flexibele tuit die precies in de vulopening past. Daarmee gaat vullen makkelijk en zonder knoeien.
Ik begin nu te twijfelen. Ik heb deze olie erin gedaan: Kroon Gearlube RPC 75W/80W. Dit is de olie die bij de automaterialenhandel uit het systeem kwam rollen voor mijn CX 2000 uit 1977. Maar… is dit de goede? Dit is GL5, moet het niet GL4 zijn?














































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- Overig Jaguar 3.4 litre saloon
- Overig Someca SOM 20D
- Overig Volvo C70n
Er mag géén GL5 olie in een cx, maar als er op de bus staat dat het ook geschikt is voor een GL4 bak zoals bij sommige bakoliën het geval is, dan kan het wel. Check de verpakking dus even.
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
gediplomeerd Citroën Specialist!
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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Er staat geen GL4 vermelding op de verpakking. Dat is dan niet zo mooi!














































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Dan moet je die olie er uit halen. Tipje: Castrol syntrax universal. Is een gl5 die is vrijgegeven voor GL4. Ik gebruik het al 10 jaar naar volle tevredenheid.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9016464&contentId=7030497
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Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
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- Overig Mercedes CLA 250 shooting brake
Kroon heeft (bij Brezan) ook een GL4.
ex 2cv 15pk, 11BL 1938, dspecial 1973, ds pallas 23 IE bvh 1973, gs, austin princess 2300, cx 2400 break, bx 19 d, cx 2500 trd, xm 2.0 16v, mgb, mgc, Suzuki vitara, ds 21 ie pallas 1971, saxo 1.1i, sm 2.7 ie, xantia 2.0 16v, C5 3.0V6 exclusive, C4 1.6HDI, C4 1.6 16v.
Nou, ik ga dan nog een keer verversen. Gelukkig heb ik dus een goed passende trechter Hoe ernstig is het trouwens als er GL5 in plaats van GL4 in zit? Is het dan “rij geen meter meer en vervang het direct” of “moet vervangen worden, maar je kunt er de komende dagen nog wel mee naar je werk op en neer”?
Ik vraag me trouwens af hoe vaak dit fout gaat, bijvoorbeeld bij onderhoudsbeurten bij niet CX gespecialiseerde garages. Het systeem bij de automaterialenhandel geeft een verkeerde olie aan.






















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- CX 20 Pallas, Sable Doré - 1983
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas, Gris Ardoise - 1966
- CX 25 TRD Turbo 2 Break, Rouge Delage, 1986
- ZX 1.4 Break Réflex, 1995
Je hoeft niets af te tappen!!
Die Kroon RPC 75W80 gebruik ik al jaren in de CX zonder enig probleem.
Ik heb dat uiteraard eerst speciaal nagevraagd bij Kroon en volgens hen was het ook volledig ‘ongevaarlijk’ voor de bak van de CX.
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Dat moeten ze dan wel op hun productinfo zetten, want daar staat nu alleen dat het een GL5 olie is…. Foutje?
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
gediplomeerd Citroën Specialist!
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
disclaimer: al mijn adviezen komen voort uit opleidingen en professionele werkervaring. Let op, gebruik van mijn tips, trucs en adviezen geschiedt op eigen risico en autotechnische kennis is een vereiste






















Totaal aantal Berichten: 3673
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- CX 20 Pallas, Sable Doré - 1983
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas, Gris Ardoise - 1966
- CX 25 TRD Turbo 2 Break, Rouge Delage, 1986
- ZX 1.4 Break Réflex, 1995
Ja, dat vond ik dus ook, daarom heb ik er toen apart naar geïnformeerd.
Maar weet je wat? Ik zal dat morgen nogmaals doen, want eigenlijk is het niet juist dat het niet op de verpakking staat.
(of ik schenk al jaren verkeerde olie)
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- CX 2400 GTi
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas hydraulique
Hoe zit dat nou precies: ik heb begrepen dat de DS-bak GL4 olie nodig heeft, maar de CX-bak juist niet. Is het zeker weten ook GL4 olie voor de CX-bak?














































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In een (oudere)cx bak zitten geen andere materialen dan in een ds bak dus waarom een cx bak wel gl5 zou kunnen hebben is mij nog niet helemaal duidelijk. Latere bouwjaren hebben geen brons meer in de bak volgens mij, maar de eerste modellen wel.
Ik ben niet arrogant. Ik ben de beste.
gediplomeerd Citroën Specialist!
Doneer, zo blijven we draaien!
disclaimer: al mijn adviezen komen voort uit opleidingen en professionele werkervaring. Let op, gebruik van mijn tips, trucs en adviezen geschiedt op eigen risico en autotechnische kennis is een vereiste






















Totaal aantal Berichten: 3673
Geregistreerd: 24-05-2007
- CX 20 Pallas, Sable Doré - 1983
- ID/DS DS 21 Pallas, Gris Ardoise - 1966
- CX 25 TRD Turbo 2 Break, Rouge Delage, 1986
- ZX 1.4 Break Réflex, 1995
Beste mensen,
Heb even navraag gedaan bij een expert met jarenlange ervaring in de smeerolie-industrie en ik kan het volgende meedelen:
Wat waterman schrijft klopt: in alle bakken met bronzen onderdelen moet GL4, omdat GL5 op den duur (doch echt niet onmiddellijk) de bronzen synchroringen zal aantasten.
Geen reden voor directe paniek dus, maar een GL4-olie is wel de juiste keuze.
De automaterialenhandel had het dus niet geheel fout, echter hun database gaat eenvoudigweg niet verder terug dan 1983.
Zelf ben ik eveneens onbedoeld onvolledig geïnformeerd geweest, omdat de Kroon RPC 75W80 weliswaar een PSA-goedkeuring heeft, maar Kroon er niet bij heeft stilgestaan dat de types vóór de PSA-tijd hier niet persé onder vallen. In hun advies aan mij heeft men destijds dus niet bedacht dat wij hier ook oudere CX’en met nog bronzen ringen binnen krijgen.
Conclusie: Kroon RPC 75W80 is prima voor de CX zonder bronzen ringen, maar in alle CX’en met bronzen ringen -zoals de CX van Voiture- moet een GL4 olie gebruikt worden, zoals bijv. Kroon GL4 80W90 of Castrol Syntrax uit de eerdere post van waterman.
Tot slot moet worden opgemerkt dat in bakken zonder bronzen delen absoluut geen GL4 olie mag, omdat dat type aldaar dus weer onderdelen aantast.
Het boek waarin staat tot welk jaar exact de bronzen ringen zijn gebruikt voor de CX-bakken heb ik momenteel helaas uitgeleend, maar ik zal het terugvragen en zodra ik dit weet zal ik het hier posten. Ik ga er vooralsnog echter vanuit dat de grens ergens rond 1982 ligt.
Met excuses voor de eerdere verwarring!
La Léo
P.S. De officiële Citroën servicemap van destijds geeft Total EP SAE 80W85 aan, maar deze viscositeit is anno 2011 sowieso nergens meer leverbaar.
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