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Tuurlijk, alles is te maken. Er zitten honderden weerstandjes en printplaatjes in zo’n ECU en daar brandt er vermoedelijk eentje van door.
Maar ik heb er weleens eentje opengemaakt en je kunt eigenlijk niet zijn wat of welke. Maar goed, ik ben dan ook geen elektro-wizzard.
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Ja die computer begint inderdaad vrij zeldzaam te worden voor de types met 2 BDP-sensoren.
De reden? Ze gaan allemaal kapot
Moet ik er eentje in voorraad nemen?
Ps. Ik weet dat de ECU’s op 2 verschillende plaatsen zijn gemonteerd: achter het dasboardkastje of in de motorruimte.
Zijn de ECU’s tbv 2 sensors ook wel in de motorruimte geplaatst? En zo ja, kan dit dan er voor zorgen dat ze kapot gaat (te warm of andere vervelende leefomstandigheden)?
Mijn ECU zit veilig opgebrogen achter het dasboardkastje.
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Ja en juist die gaan altijd kapot!!
Je zou zeggen dat het andersom was, maar de types met één sensor hebben het meest kwetsbare systeem. De versie met 1 sensor was wat dat betreft werkelijk een verbetering. Veel minder (vage) storingen met die auto’s!
Waarom ze toen de computer in de motorruimte hebben geplaatst is mij een raadsel, maar echt nadelig bleek het ook niet te zijn, behalve dat je per ongeluk weleens een stekker los trekt als je in de buurt van de claxon bezig bent.
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- CX 2000 Pallas
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reden dat de dingen niet mer werken kan zijn slechte soldeerverbindingen, of veroudering componenten of defecte componenten, maar met een schema is zo’n ding echt wel te repareren, dus wie er eentje heeft laat maar even weten.
Mark
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Een schema van de ingewanden van die computer zelf heb ik nog nooit gezien of gevonden helaas….
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Wat uitfikt zijn de eindtrappen omdat ie te heet wordt achter het dashboard… ik denk dat als je die transistoren vervangt, hij het wel weer doet.
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Main Entry: bo·gart
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Deze meneer zegt het te kunnen:
http://link.marktplaats.nl/569126085
Maar ja, die zegt het ook ECU’s van een DS te kunnen repareren. Ik vraag me af of een DSie al een ECU had.
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- ZX 1.4 Break Réflex, 1995
Tuurlijk heeft ‘ie dat. Hoe denk je anders dat die injectoren worden aangestuurd?
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Juist ja, het was idd een injection ELECTRONIQUE (en geen mechanische injectie).
Hier is al eens eerder gediscutieerd.
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/185765/P15/
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La Léo schreef:Ja en juist die gaan altijd kapot!!
Je zou zeggen dat het andersom was, maar de types met één sensor hebben het meest kwetsbare systeem. De versie met 2 sensoren was wat dat betreft werkelijk een verbetering. Veel minder (vage) storingen met die auto’s!
De types met 1 bdp sensor zijn toch juist de latere types?
La Léo schreef:Waarom ze toen de computer in de motorruimte hebben geplaatst is mij een raadsel, maar echt nadelig bleek het ook niet te zijn, behalve dat je per ongeluk weleens een stekker los trekt als je in de buurt van de claxon bezig bent.
Bij de mijne uit 89 met 1 bdp sensor zit de computer achter het dashboard kastje.
Alleen de AEI zit onder de kap.
Lijkt mij ook het meeste ideaal, 1 bdp sensor en de ECU achter het dashboardkastje.





















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maartens schreef:Deze meneer zegt het te kunnen:
http://link.marktplaats.nl/569126085Maar ja, die zegt het ook ECU’s van een DS te kunnen repareren. Ik vraag me af of een DSie al een ECU had.
Ik repareer ze wel voor de helft, maar ff serieus wie zorgt dan ff dat ik wat kappotte exemplaren heb kijk ik of ze te fixen zijn.
Mark
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Arjan Verkade schreef:La Léo schreef:Ja en juist die gaan altijd kapot!!
Je zou zeggen dat het andersom was, maar de types met één sensor hebben het meest kwetsbare systeem. De versie met 2 sensoren was wat dat betreft werkelijk een verbetering. Veel minder (vage) storingen met die auto’s!De types met 1 bdp sensor zijn toch juist de latere types?
Sorry, typefoutje inderdaad. Die met TWEE sensoren gaat vaak kapot.
De versie met één sensor was een verbetering!!
@Mod: wellicht even aanpassen in mijn post, anders wekt dit later verwarring voor iemand die de corrigerende post van Arjan niet gelezen heeft.
Arjan Verkade schreef:Bij de mijne uit 89 met 1 bdp sensor zit de computer achter het dashboard kastje.
Alleen de AEI zit onder de kap.
We hebben het hier ook de hele tijd over de AEI. Dat is immers óók een computer?
Die computer onder je dashboard is van de injectie, maar daarover gaat dit topic niet.
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Mark Gielen schreef:Ik repareer ze wel voor de helft,
maar ff serieus wie zorgt dan ff dat ik wat kappotte exemplaren heb kijk ik of ze te fixen zijn.
Mark
O ik zal eens kijken.
Kapotte moeten wel te vinden zijn. Het zijn de goede die schaars worden.
Tenzij men de kapotte allemaal heeft weggezwierd natuurlijk….
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Ahum, beste forummers er is een oplossing voor de problemen waar steeds meer van jullie in de naaste toekomste mee te maken krijgen, VEMS, geloof het of niet, stilstaan langs de kant van de weg of gewoon niet wegkunnen van huis, ik moet er niet aan denken, gewoon die oude shit eruit je CX rijdt wederom als nieuw.
Repareren en vervangen van evt moeilijk te verkrijgen ond kost uiteindelijk meer! en je bespaart ook nog eens flink op de brandstofkosten.
Harry.
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La Léo schreef:Arjan Verkade schreef:La Léo schreef:Ja en juist die gaan altijd kapot!!
Je zou zeggen dat het andersom was, maar de types met één sensor hebben het meest kwetsbare systeem. De versie met 2 sensoren was wat dat betreft werkelijk een verbetering. Veel minder (vage) storingen met die auto’s!De types met 1 bdp sensor zijn toch juist de latere types?
Sorry, typefoutje inderdaad. Die met TWEE sensoren gaat vaak kapot.
De versie met één sensor was een verbetering!!@Mod: wellicht even aanpassen in mijn post, anders wekt dit later verwarring voor iemand die de corrigerende post van Arjan niet gelezen heeft.
Arjan Verkade schreef:Bij de mijne uit 89 met 1 bdp sensor zit de computer achter het dashboard kastje.
Alleen de AEI zit onder de kap.
We hebben het hier ook de hele tijd over de AEI. Dat is immers óók een computer?
Die computer onder je dashboard is van de injectie, maar daarover gaat dit topic niet.
Ik heb het aangepast, ik vond het al verwarrend, normaal vind iedereen met 1 sensor beter.
Ik dacht dat met ECU de injectie computer bedoeld werd, maar het is blijkbaar de AEI