





















Totaal aantal Berichten: 3197
Geregistreerd: 16-06-2005
- SM 2.7 Carburateur
- C5 exclusive
- Berlingo 1.4 I multispace
- 2CV special
Even een update :
er zit wel degelijk lampencontrole in deze auto : module zit achter het linker achterlicht .
Daar heb ik ook een relais gevonden dat de automatische achterruit ontdooien zal zijn .
Bekabeling moet nog uit de stijl naast de zijruit gehaald worden om het allemaal een beetje te begrijpen :
aan het relais twee dikke draden en drie verschillende kleuren dunne draad , in de dakrail enkel vier groene draden .
en alle bedrading komt van boven , dus geen verbindingen met de normale bundel naar achter .
Nu heb ik natuurlijk nog nergens een schema van deze opstelling gevonden ........
Relais is BITRON 2047023 en dit is volgens CX basis Citroen nummer 95632041
Dus nu proberen uit te vinden of dit nog in andere Citroen modellen van rond die tijd is gebruikt
in de hoop daar een aansluitschema te kunnen vinden ,
elke hint is welkom .
Het mysterie van de dikke voedingsdraden is al theoretich opgelost :
volgens de schema’s zijn hier TWEE dunne draden voor gebruikt
Walter
Meten is weten , gissen is missen




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Lampen module zit tussen de kabelboom achterlichten en komt over de vloer
Zal vandaag even verder kijken.
Achteruit verwarming zal ik nakijken hoe die loopt.
Er gaat/gaan vanaf de plip/plaffonere wel een draad/draden (alleen plus) naar de achterste spots.
Volgens mij 2 draden 1 Voor links en 1 voor rechts.
Maar kan ook 1 draad zijn.
En dat dan links met rechts verbonden is.
Zal vanmiddag even zoeken
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hsKhBRFnzYgcChS77
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
In bovenstaande link kun je zien welke draden er naar en door de A stijl gaan.
Dit zijn de draden van de plip
Plofonnier en de schakelasr van de achteruit verwarming.
1 draad gaat naar achteren langs de zijkant voor de achterste spots.
(Het is draad bundel P )
Rest van de draden..
Achteruit verwarming en lampen mudulle enz enz loopt over de vloer
Vgf
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
De dikke draden zijn voor de verwarming.
De twee dunne voor de schakeling van automatische uitschakelen.
Bij beslagen ruiten maken de twee dunne raden contact met elkaar door dat de ruit vochtig is ,zo wordt het relais bekrachticht.
Is de condens weg dan geen contact meer en schakeld het relais uit.
Geen van deze draden loopt via de Astijl.
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Draden van de achterruit kunnen ook vanaf het rechter achterlicht komen hier komt ook een draad bundel van voren
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YPhvj2UBqPm7Uxvw5
Deze bundels zijn vanaf 86 gelijk aan elkaar.
Alleen de opties verschillen.
Maar zoals op de 4 foto’s te zien ,hoort het bij iedere cx te lopen.
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Welke draden wil je nu precies weten…
Alleen die wie door de A stijl naar boven lopen toch…
Kan ik wel voor je uit zoeken
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.






















Totaal aantal Berichten: 3197
Geregistreerd: 16-06-2005
- SM 2.7 Carburateur
- C5 exclusive
- Berlingo 1.4 I multispace
- 2CV special
Frank ,
bedankt voor het mee denken en zoeken !
de foto’s die je gepost hebt zijn identiek aan de schema’s die ik nu aan het bestuderen ben .
maar klopt niet volledig met de werkelijkheid in de Prestige ( donor ) en Limousine ( slachtoffer ) waar ik mee bezig ben .
Heb ondertussen de bundel van de donorauto kunnen ontleden ,
spijtig genoeg is de linker achterzijde van deze auto afgeslepen
om een ongevalwagen te reanimeren ,
waardoor ik dus het deel van in de stijl van de achterruit naar beneden mis . daar waar het relais aan hangt natuurlijk .
De bedrading OP de rechter A-stijl heb ik ondanks de brandschade kunnen opsnorren .
Nu de automatische achterruitverwarming ; de schakalaar hiervoor in het dak heeft
5 aansluitingen en DRIE standen : manueel opzetten , af , of automatisch .
https://myalbum.com/album/YZUK3zpRPFfy
nu hoe dit systeem is aangesloten en werkt is mij tot op heden een raadsel .
Moet nog wel bij de Limousine de bekleding van de achtervleugel halen ,
hoop dat dit wat licht in de duisternis brengt ,
daar moet wel ergens een verbinding zijn met stroom en massa
want beide draden van de achterruit verwarming komen samen in de linker stijl van de achterruit naar beneden .
Groeten , Walter
Meten is weten , gissen is missen




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Zoek ik voor je uit.
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.








Totaal aantal Berichten: 765
Geregistreerd: 02-11-2005
- XM 3.0 V6 bvm5 Exclusive 1998
- C6 (2005-2012) 3.0 HDI AUTO Exclusive 2009
- CX 25 GTi bvm5 ABS 1987
- SM 3.0 Carb bvm5 1974
- DS 3 DS 3 Opera








Totaal aantal Berichten: 765
Geregistreerd: 02-11-2005
- XM 3.0 V6 bvm5 Exclusive 1998
- C6 (2005-2012) 3.0 HDI AUTO Exclusive 2009
- CX 25 GTi bvm5 ABS 1987
- SM 3.0 Carb bvm5 1974
- DS 3 DS 3 Opera






















Totaal aantal Berichten: 3197
Geregistreerd: 16-06-2005
- SM 2.7 Carburateur
- C5 exclusive
- Berlingo 1.4 I multispace
- 2CV special
Heren , dank voor de support !!
Hier kom ik er zeker mee uit , nu alleen die “capteur” nog opsporen op de achterruit .
zullen waarschijnlijk de aansluitingen bovenaan de ruit zijn , waarvan ik dacht dat dit de aansluitingen van de verwarming waren .
Ingenieus systeem ! zelfs spiegelverwarming hangt hier aan
op zoek naar achterruit systemen ben ik er achter gekomen dat met nu blijkbaar met een timer van 10 tot 15 minuten werkt .....
Nogmaals dank ,
Walter
Meten is weten , gissen is missen




























Totaal aantal Berichten: 9362
Geregistreerd: 25-05-2010
- CX break 2500 RD diesel 1986
- ID/DS pallas 1967
- CX Prestige 2400 1976
- CX 2200 diesel super
- CX 25IE automaat
- CX 2500 pallas diesel
Is dubbel systeem.
15 minuten (Dit weer ik niet precies)
Of als de “detectie” draden geen contact meer maken.
Maar is een gevoelig lees vaak kapot systeem.
Bij velen werkt dit niet meer.
VgF
De boer is troef
Après cette énième cx
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126190970@N08/
http://www.citroen-forum.nl/forums/viewthread/223616/
Restauratie Prestige laagdaks, er is weer vooruitgang.


























Totaal aantal Berichten: 7585
Geregistreerd: 03-04-2006
- C35 RD
- C3 1.4 Exclusive
Dit brengt mij ook weer verder:-): bij klikt het relais, ik kan geen draadbreuk meten in de achterruit verwarming zelf en toch werkt het niet. Ik ga ook weer eens puzzelen.